Yup makes a lot of sense.......thats why I was worried....nice talking to you tonight thanks a lot.capthis said:yep MAN sucks! That has been decided already! This stuadacher will not be an all out 3D plane. It should do nice Imac type stuff, and some limited 3D. Hovering and TR's shouldn't be to much of a problem, but with the smallish surfaces you will really have to be "on the ball" to keep the tail under the airplane. It may harrier real sweet, and it may not. I would bet not though. Elevators have to have enough authority to keep the airplane stalled, past the snapping tendencies if that makes any sense.