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Hey Guys,
Just my 2 cents.
When sending emails to your Distric Rep and Dave Brown,I think that it is a good idea to put your AMA number by your name.
If you have not contacted these people as of yet, please do.
This is extremely important to our hobby.
Anytime a freedom is taken away,it is a serious matter.


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This was the reply I received from Dave Brown. I hope no one minds me posting it here. If it should be taken down just let me know.


I understand your displeasure with rule #9, but you have not considered why it is necessary.

Tail touching is a neat trick, and displays a great deal of control over the model, BUT, it will put you into an INDEFENSIBLE position in a court of law, if an accident happens, WHETHER SUCH TAIL TOUCHING IS PART OF THE ACCIDENT, OR NOT....

INTENTIONALLY "banging" a "vital" control surface onto the ground will give the prosecution a way to pursue punative damages, or, perhaps, even CRIMINAL charges, of you have an "accident". Just how hard would you think it would be to convince a. typical. jury that the rudder is the "most vital" control surface. (They would be sold in the basis of a ship without a rudder is, out of control). Ironically, there is a case on record, where an aerobatic pilot, flying a "One Design" aircraft, had a rudder cable break, and was unable to land the aircraft, and was forced to bail oun, so don't even TRY to make the point that the rudder isn't necessary!

Think about this.....could you convince the widow of the person you killed that your actions in banging a vital control surface on the ground was reasonable? Please don't think you could say the rudder was not a "vital" control surface.....the prosecution will put as many 3-D fliers as necessary on the stand to ask them if they can hover without the rudder....."answer yes, or no, only" many do you think would answer "yes"??? Have you tried this??

Regardless of whether the crash was caused by the rudder, or even happened during a flight in which you "touched", the fact that you had INTENTIONALLY banged the rudder "a vital control surface" into the ground would cause a jury to consider if your actions were reasonable. Think about this....if an airline was to make it a habit of moving it's airliners around the ramp with a forklift pushing on the rudder, wouldn't you think that would become a factor in any lawsuit which came about as a result of an accident....even if there was no evidence that the rudder caused the crash???

I don't think any of us want to be put into that position, particularly when the solution is so simple......All you need to do is to extend the tailwheel back, behind the rudder, and you can touch the tailwheel to your hearts delight. You can bang that on the ground as much as you like, and no jury is going to be able to say this is negligence, or, unreasonable.

This rule is intended to reduce the likelyhood of a claim getting out of hand, perhaps including punative damages, of, even criminal charges (negligent homicide) you really think it's that rediculous a rule??

Dave Brown

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Call him on it. Look at Franks reply and use the same tact. We can easily come up with thousands of other examples of what a jusy MIGHT percieve.

Hell, try telling the widow why you HAD to fly that stupid toy anyway!
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