REAL FLIGHT G3

spastic said:

AFP rules, about $130 from OMP i'm sure AFP2 is close though you can never get ahead with computer shit or airplanes for that matter

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Just to provide a dissenting point of view...

My first flight sim was the Dave Brown one. It had crappy VGA graphics but the physics were *very* good, especially considering the price and the age of the program.

I was more than a little disappointed with AFP because although the graphics are vastly superior to the DB sim, the physics were not that much better at all. I'm also disappointed that AFP handles smaller craft (like 40-sized 3D ships) so poorly and seems oriented far more towards bigger planes.

While the price is okay, I think AFP would have done better to focus on actually improving their attention to detail and provide more mainstream models than offer things like electric-powered hercules, turbine-powered 747s etc.

The Aircraft carrier scenery is also "cute" but somewhat impractical -- after all, how many of *us* are really going to find ourselves flying a model from the deck of a carrier?

Perhaps it's just that I like to use a sim for practicing real manuvers using regular (size/design) models in practical scenery rather than treating the thing like an arcade game that I'm disappointed.

I'm looking forward to the release of G3. I work at a local hobby store and it looks like we should have them next week (G3 recently went gold meaning that it was certified and ready for duplication....) Yes, it sucks that you can't upgrade, but thats ok. Were all of the Windows Millenium Edition (yes it was the worst O.S. ever....) users pissed when they found out that they couldn't goto Windows XP with an upgrade? Welcome to the world of PC Software people. It's a totally new platform, like G3. I can't believe how people on one of the other forums (you know which one...) are already bashing G3 and passing judgement on it- when it HASN'T EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET! These are the same people who in the same breath shit all over G2. I've had G2 for a few years now, and I am extremely satisfied with it. It taught me how to fly and was so helpful when learning new maneuvers that I didn't want to risk my plane with - i.e. hovering, harriers, torque rolls, rolling circles. HOWEVER, G2 WILL NOT 3D out of the box. You really have to tweak the plane parameters to make 3d possible. Is it realistic? Somewhat. Is it Perfect? No. People bashing G2 don't even take this into consideration- G2 wasn't marketed towards the 3-d fliers. I have a few models on G2 (one of them being the 3D Bee which you can see on the build/design forum) which behave VERY CLOSE to real life. You just need to spend time messing with the numbers. I haven't tried AFP or Reflex though. A friend of mine has tried both and he says that physics-wise, he wasn't impressed (g2 is still his favorite). People praise Reflex because of its graphics, which I think are overrated- what people don't realize that the backgrounds are 2-d pictures with a scaling 3d model of an airplane/heli on top... Not true 3-d environments like G2/G3/AFP which I prefer over the 2-d. I'll be picking up my copy of G3 *hopefully* this coming Friday when our stock order arrives and will post some impressions/answer any questions people may have. Can't wait to try the new plane editor (changes to a plane are reflected on the 3-d model which opens up all sorts of possibilities- My 3dBee Profile for G3!) Sorry for the long post just thought I'd add my 2 cents to the Flight Sim Wars.

-Matt