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My little experiment.

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Ok, right now Im shitting bricks. I have built this new profile very half assedly, mind you and I dont kow if it will fly. It was just for some fun and to learn some full on 3D on, coz right now Im flying a spacewalker and that doesnt exactly spell 3D.

So, I have built a profile. It is from the original foamy factory 3DX plans, and before you shoot me down its an experiment and I have no idea if it will come off how I hope.

It is built form half inch balsa alll round. Its a slab wing because I had no time or patience to build it properly and I have seen it work for other planes. It is gonna hav a 25 glow straped to the front and its as light as.

I wanna know will this little sucker fly at all, I dont care how well i just want it to fly.

Im also worried about the thikness of the tailsection, its only a small plpane and it looks spazo with the 1/2" thickness, so I think ill just cut it down.

Let me know exactly waht you think, be brutally honest, I dont care its a very cheap planes so I figure, nothing ventured nothing gained.

Fly-guy
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Need more details to really tell you anything...... Is it a built up balsa version of the 3dx with the same areas/ moments etc?
It is a built up version, except the wing is just flat half inch balsa, because I couldnt be bothered to do it as a full built up wing.

Fly-guy
im sorry, you said be honest so here it goes, i think/hope you are joking..
Oh crap, is there even a slight chance it will work, like maybe, see what i figure is that the original was as flat as a tack, in fact only 6mm think so why wont a thinker version with a higher powered motor work???

Also the guys at my LHS who have been building and flying for 30 years said it should work, and they had a good look at it and understood what i was doing so.....

Fly-guy

And for crying out loud use the live chat thiny.
Fly guy, I am thinking it won't work that well, however, something similar has been done. I designed a little plane called a Half-Wit some time ago- plans are available free for download on my site. A buddy of mine got hold of the plans and bashed my design and the 3dx together. The results were pretty good with a built up wing, an overall weight of 14ozs and a Norvel .074 for power......

I guess my point is that it sounds wayyy overpowered for the moments/areas of the 3dx....
I hate that double post edit thing.......
Oh, so the circle jerks at the LHS think it will work them it must!!
i ment that to be funny, not a slam to your LHS or you, i know how it sounded though. i'm not really a dick, Honest
this is sloppy and fast...
If i'm writing way under you i'm sorry i'm assuming your new to this stuff. ok lets look at the problem cause i now belive your not full of shit.
one of the reasons a 3dx flys as good as it does at that size because of its wing loading being so light.
to calc wingloading take the wieght in Oz and divide by the wing area in sq feet, for shits and giggles lets say the 3dx had a 12oz weight and a wing area of 432inches square thats 3 sq feet so 12/3 is a wing load of 4oz/sq'
said like 4 ounces per square foot. os thats with a 1.5 oz motor and a 5 oz maybe battery and a 4 oz airframe and the rest is shit like the servos and other hardware.. follow so far.
So you take your model, a light .25 glow is about 9oz, an airframe made of 1/2" balsa is probably well lets see i just weighed the lightest sheet of 1/4" i had and it was 1.75oz so lest saythat the 1/2 are 3oz how many sheets? lets say 5 thats 15oz just airframe then servos at least 1.5oz, battery small nimh 2oz tank other hardware 4oz so you got lets say and even 30oz which is probably low now 30/3 is 10oz/sq'
for a small sport model this is not to bad but for a 3D model of this size its not good, smaller models to be 3D need to be really light, your plane probably will fly but it will be a fast snappy bitch. 10oz/sq' is lots differnet then 4os/sq'
but hey you gota learn the hard way sometimes so please finish this thing, if your not too lazy, and lets hear how it flyes, and when you prove me wrong i will not be surprized because i've seen flying lawnmowers, so stop shitting yourself :D
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Ok, i think that post was a good thing, and by the way the guys that run my LHS can fly 3D and have flown 3D competitevley so :p

I have stopped shitting my sefl now so Ill just get the money together and finsih the little SOB. If it does get fucked up, highly likey, ill just get one of Swanys Tacos and use the gear from this.

Fly-guy
by the way the guys that run my LHS can fly 3D and have flown 3D competitevley so
figures..
taco is a good idea
just dont put all the parts in a bag, add glue and shake...
How did you do a 1/2" solid slab-o-balsa wing? Edge join a bunch a sheets? That's gonna fly like a brick duuude... Lotsa weight.

What's you're wing area?

It's well worth your time and not hard to do a built up wing.....

Are you jerkin' my chain?
Are you jerkin' my chain?
thats what i thought :D
Are you jerkin' my chain?
thats what i thought :D
crap
King of the double post :D

Look at it this way: I've seen a lot of planes fly. Some fly better than others, but very few won't fly at all.

So the way I see it, your plane should fall somewhere between "Won't Fly at All" and "Flys Very Good". Now where it lands on that scale is kinda subjective.

Hope this has helped :lol: :lol: :lol:
King of the double post
i figured out whats going on any time i hit the back botton it does a double
even though i dont hit submit 2x :D
Uh Swany, Im not tugging your chain, Im thinking it will fall into the flies like shit catergory or between the flies average catergory.

I am well aware that it will have huge ass wing loading but I just want a cheap little dont care about plane I can have some fun with, thats why its an experiment.

Thoughts on my next profile, a Taco once this things dead and either a Katand from OMP, a Sportsamn Aviation Madddog or a Giles from TT as a plane for my .52, wadda ya reckon???

Im back to shtittin myself on this little one to :oops:

Fly-guy
Uh Swany, Im not tugging your chain, Im thinking it will fall into the flies like shit catergory or between the flies average catergory.

I am well aware that it will have huge ass wing loading but I just want a cheap little dont care about plane I can have some fun with, thats why its an experiment.

Thoughts on my next profile, a Taco once this things dead and either a Katand from OMP, a Sportsamn Aviation Madddog or a Giles from TT as a plane for my .52, wadda ya reckon???

Im back to shtittin myself on this little one to :oops:

Fly-guy
Gocha..... But I still say It's worth your time and trouble to do a build up wing... Not that hard and it will make your "experiment" fly sooo much better.... but give it a shot and let us know...

Of those planes you mentioned... The Katana is probably the next best ship out there... The Taco is good if you're looking for something .25 sized...

Then again.... You could wait another two weeks and get a MoJo... :D
Dude, why don't you just use foam like the real 3DX? It's way cheaper than balsa wood. And easier to work with too...and you know it'll fly. I don't mean to sound harsh but that balsa thing is gonna fly like crap.
How did that last post get dated tomorrow, it's still Friday here.
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