learning 3D moves

I started on rolling harriers after I could TR and do up right harriers.... I started by trying to do point rolls... those are the same inputs as with harrier rolls... You can try to go from a harrier to a roll with just rudder input... That will get you started... Then try to add in elevator when you get the rudder only working... You can also just do elevator, then add in rudder... But the biggest tip of all... is to just burn more fuel.... Lots of practice...

I thought I'd have to work on inverted harriers all season.. But it turn out that all I needed to do was burn 4 packs thru my foamy every morning for 2 weeks... I beat the hell out of that poor esledge.. but I learned it... I always use the push the nose.. push the tail trick. Works great.... However you're upright harriers will go to hell... So you have to modify the trick to be, Inverted: push what is close to you, Upright: push what is farthest away. Works for me...

I still can't too point rolls too smooth..... I don't do anything super smooth... maybe I should fly pattern for awhile...

Thanks guys for the input.

I started practicing the inverted harriers in AFP. Man, you gotta remember that the rudder and aileron are reversed compared to upright harriers. That is tough to get used to. I don't want to just fly around uncontrolled in an inverted harrier - I want the plane to go where I want it. Figure-8's are good for me to practice with.

I find that the "push the tail" etc. tricks don't help me... the correct stick movements gotta become instinctive to me - I don't have time to think about it; wreck preceeds elucidation of proper stick movement.:lol: I'm more apt to start moving the sticks in the direction I think is right... and if its wrong, I try to quickly correct from there.

I think I'll try those point rolls, Paul. I never tried getting those down. Will certainly help develop good rudder instincts. I guess I'll keep breaking those AFP Extra330s.

Night,
Kurt