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Funtana 90 or Shock flyer?

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I want to know if people think i should get a funtana 90 with an evolution 100 or a shock flyer with axi motor etc.?

I flew a shock flyer on AFP and hated it, flew a funtana and a katana and loved it.

The thing is i hear people say that the bigger the plane is on AFP the more accurate the physics. So im assuming that AFP does not portray the true flight characteristics of the shock flyer.

Has anyone flown a shock flyer in real life and on the simulator?? How do they compare in flight characteristics?? Cuz on AFP i cant even get it to hover!!!

What do people have to say about funtanas? More importantly evolution engines???
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Well if you want to fly in your own living room I'd get the shockflyer.

However I don't like electrics :roll:
I have both planes but have not flew either on the sim. Being you are from N. Y. and winter is coming the ShockFlyer might be better for now.
Both planes fly great. I have a Saito 100 on mine and it is not enough motor for the Funtana it dosn't pull out of a hover as fast as I would like.
Dude...the Shocky on AFP flies NOTHING like the real thing. The Shocky on AFP flies like it weighs 6lbs. But if you seriously want to get into electrics I would recommend starting with a standard setup so you can build planes from Depron and Blue Foam. Because trust me........foamies dont last long most of the time and you'll want to be able to build another one soon after your first destruction.
I'd get Both... (If you got time and money)

But, I agree with TailSpnr, foamies are a bit like spads so after the first Shocky, your probably gonna want start building your own. They get beat up easily...
If you don't have a foamy yet.....get the shockey. I have more fun with mine than anything else.
If you don't have a foamy yet.....get the shockey. I have more fun with mine than anything else.
I 2nd that.
I see Spinners point, and agree. If you get the Shocky, you can't scratch build different planes for the same gear. (at least not that I've seen, I'm sure you could, just not as easy) Spend the $ on a Brushless 20mm motor/SC and servos and you can build $10 airplanes all year.

Not to bust on the Shocky, I know they fly great. But I've gone through 6 airframes this year (since spring) and I've not hardly had time to even fly them this last 6 weeks.

I don't know crap about the Evo engines, but they sure are getting a following. First time I saw one other than on a trainer my nose turned up, "Ooh, what's that nasty thing doing on a 3D plane...." Then the kid did like 6 tail dips in the pond where I floated my Taco, and I was like "Hey, that things AWSOME!"

I bet that engine would be hot on the soon to come Katana 70 profile of the weight isn't too high!
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I agree with Gordo and should have been more clear in my "2nd that" post. I was seconding the fact that you need a foamy, not specifically a Shocky.

Get a standard foamy setup like a Himax 2015-4100 and a CC 25 ESC, 3 cell LiPo and you're set for a LOT of fun. Buy a bundle of blue fan-fold for $25 at Lowes and you can make a ton of planes. I cut a bunch out at a time so I have spares ready to go.
AFP is a great program, BUT, it doesn't model anything under a 60" wingspan very well. This has been admitted by the developers.

Shocky's and foamies in general are great for 3D practice.
I see Spinners point, and agree. If you get the Shocky, you can't scratch build different planes for the same gear. (at least not that I've seen, I'm sure you could, just not as easy)
There's tons of good airframes out there for this sized gear. Tim Hart has 3 on his website alone. Look around on RCGroups and you'll find 'em. All you really need to do is buy some flat carbon, some 3 mill depron and build any airframe to 28-32 inches. They're best for indoors, though. If you want an outdoor foamy...I'd get the bigger 36" 6 mil planes.
cropdusterdave said:
I see Spinners point, and agree. If you get the Shocky, you can't scratch build different planes for the same gear. (at least not that I've seen, I'm sure you could, just not as easy)
There's tons of good airframes out there for this sized gear. Tim Hart has 3 on his website alone. Look around on RCGroups and you'll find 'em. All you really need to do is buy some flat carbon, some 3 mill depron and build any airframe to 28-32 inches. They're best for indoors, though. If you want an outdoor foamy...I'd get the bigger 36" 6 mil planes.
There you go, I'm just too sheltered. I really don't spend the time I used to on any boards but here, and actually less here too. I'll check in on these smaller planes so I don't make that mistake again.
And the Foamy of all Foamies is without a doubt the ChuckFlyer. Just ask Chuck Auger...he'll gladly send you a copy of the plans :wink:
Built my first ChuckFlyer last week.. maidened saturday.. was a handful til I got the trim set... This thing is awesome... I built it with Blue Core FFF.. with a CC 25 ESC and 3 6gr servos and a 2808-34 AXI motor was 12 1/4 oz AUW... it flies slow and is solid..

I must say... with the AXI motor mount... needs some care.. they break off very easily... A GWS stick mounted motor.. like the Himax would be a better setup IMHO...
One of the best foamies I've flown to date is the MVP (MiniVertigo Pro) which is outstanding!
Here's a link to the RCGroups thread with plans...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269434
I'd do some research on the funtana 90. Seems a lot of people are having trouble with the wings/ailerons failing. (info gathered form rcu).
My shocky is my best plane...it goes to work with me and its going to the polls tommarrow. 8)

& isn't a Funtana 90 a FATTY. Theres 5 of em
at our field...
Well, I have both the Funtana 90 and a Shocky. The money I put into each isn't even close, so I wouldn't bother comparing them. The shocky is a $350 plane. The Funtana is around $1500 with my Saito 180 and all the high dollar servos. I assume you want spectacular 3D performance from each, so you'll probably need to spend about that much with either to get it right. I've posted in a few threads on RCU so you can see all my growing pains with both planes if you care to.

One word of advice on the shocky motor -- go with an outrunner. Gearboxes really suck. The Axi is a nice motor, but a tube type mount leads to a stronger nose. I have the Nippy Black 0808/98 on mine and still love it. If you dont' ever crash, then the engine mount method is not an issue, but the gearboxes are still noisy, heavy and power robbing.

We assume you want to fly indoors, correct? (what if you get another record snowfall this year, like last year!)

If you have a nice big indoor place to fly, then you can go with about any setup you like for the Shocky. Anywhere from 5.5 oz to 8 oz. Over 8 oz and the shocky doesn't fly very well anymore. Lighter setups cost more, and you may be better served with a bigger plane if money is an issue --say in the 10 to 14 oz range. the Foamfactory (fanfold type) planes fill this bill well . My local gym is really small, and a light shocky is the only thing which really performs in this tight space. All other planes are forced to just fly around in circles or hover in 1 spot.

Someone once described the flight of a shocky as "dreamy". I can't imagine a better description. A very light shocky floats around like it's almost flying under water if you can imagine that. It flys "big" in this way when compared to sthe giant scale stuff. You've probably seen videos of the ETOC guys doing their thing. Most of their setups were actually heavy compared to state of the art stuff, cause they were sponsored pilots using all JR or other big name equipment. You can do better than that now. I belive it will be a LONG TIME before anything comes around to eclipse the performance of good light built shocky. Motors, servos and batteries will get lighter but it's very difficult to imagine a material better than 3 mm depron. If you can spend the bucks, go for the lightest setup you can, and you'll love the shocky.
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I made 2 big investments this flying season (and sold a lot of planes to pay for them). A Flip 3D and a Shocky. The Flip has 11 flights on it and the Shocky is awaiting batts, but everything else is purchased and I did spend the extra $ to get the lightest equip possible.

On hindsight I wish I would have never got the Flip at all. It is a fun plane and a good 3Der, but it is more of the same. All that I've read echos what Wind Junkie just said - the Shocky is a blast - especially if kept light.

I know I haven't flown the Flip a lot, but I wish I would have put the $ into a really nice radio instead - like JRs new 9303 :p , or lots and lots of batts for my soon to be flying Shocky 8) .

Jeff
JEEZE....$1500 on a Funtana 90? You can tell me I'm wrong, I won't even argue.....But that is a huge waste of $$$$$$$$ IMO.
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