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An Outlaw looks at goin' legit.

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After years of flying outlaw, recently was invited down to Lakeland to fly with Ron Ferrer w/ some like-minded folks, so I finally joined the AMA (about 12 yrs after my first flight!). I was gonna need a card for the PRO-BRO in January anyway.... then it occured to me... I've never flown at an actual club field, with a runway, flight line, pilot's station, etc. I usually just walk out in the field and fly the plane on all sides of me..usually try to keep the plane into the wind , so that when I make my feeble hovering attempts, I'm looking at the top of the plane, at least that's been the drill lately. So, I decided yesterday, if I'm gonna go fly at an actual club field, I need to practice trying to stand still ( I usually walk around a LOT!) and fly beyond an imaginary flight line... it was pretty darn windy, so , I didn't get real fancy, mostly just low harrier circles (yes, circles). I was amazed how hard it was to keep the plane on one side of me, after so many years of flying wherever I want. Have to get used to seeing the plane from different angles... for instance, the wind was from my left, and instead of looking at the plane hanging in the breeze from behind, I'm looking at a side view (profile?) and having a real hard time telling whether or not the wings are level, until, of course, it starts to fall over sideways, which gives a pretty strong indication, but not much notice! Actually, I think I'm gonna have to practice this "new" style of flying a pretty good bit before I'm ready to take it to a club field w/ other folks & planes around.
Most of y'all probably learned to fly at a club, with an instructor, on a buddy box, and so have flown this way your whole R/C career, but for an outlaw like me, it is proving more difficult than I imagined to try and break some heavily ingrained habits. I'm a fairly rare-breed... a self-taught pilot who didn't give up after a few crashes- but it seems I've taught myself some bad habits when it comes to flying with others, in public.
Anyone else ever go through this? I know the only solution is to practice, but I'd rather be working on inverted harriers than just "not crossing the imaginary line" but I have to work on this stuff, for safety's sake, before I take this show on the road. Thanks for listening (reading).
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Stick with it Stix. Like you say, I'm one of the ones who learned out at a club field, but recently there have been a lot of times when nobody was around when I have been able to get out and walk around a bit. It sure is nice, and I can see where if you did it all the time, it would be hard to go back.

Get used to flying in a crowd and standing still. Pro Bro's are a lot of fun, but you gotta be on your toes in a mass hover! :shock: Stay after it and by January, you'll be comfortable, I'm sure.

Thanks for the encouragement, Bandito. I never imagined it would be this hard . I've only tried this for a dew flights, but it was almost like starting over again! Meebe it won't take too long to get used to though, if I keep at it!
don't worry, we aren't too formal around here! if you fly on the side runway like me and bob, you can walk out and fly on 3 sides. the h.l. glider guys fly on the other side of the runway and go where they want. as long as they got the pin, no problem!

Don't be shy, c'mon down! :D hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to fly; at least meet a few of the local bros and try it out! you'll be glad you did!
Hi, Ron! I don't know if you're still surfing, but I was wondering what time you're going tomorrow? Also, any ladies there for my wife to hang with? 'Cause if I can't keep her distracted, she's gonna want her own plane soon! :shock: And you know what that means :cash:
hi! me and bob will be there about 7:00 or so. My girlfreind will be there a little later. I'll probably be there most of the day, as will bob. We got 100 members or so, but the usual 8 or 10 will probably be all that's there so it shouldn't be too crowded. Maybe a dozen on sunday. That's what makes it a good club! :D from I-4 take exit 38, go north 1 block, go left on tomkow road. it dead ends and the dirt road in front of you leads to the field; you'll see the sign in front of you. Hope you can make it!
I'll see you there, dude! Probably about 9'ish. :D
Thanks Ron, for having me over. Now I've actually seen planes do the moves I've been trying... and some I ain't gonna try just yet! Got some pics... Ron really seemed to love this trainer...Imagine learning to fly with someone doing this....(actually, I think the guy knew how to fly)


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I only recently got my AMA as well....flew for years at a friends strip....fornately it is right against a tree line so you have to fly mostly on one side of you so I never really got into the habit of just flying around.

Oh doesnt that hurt the poor guys feelings when he gets violated when he is trying to learn to fly? :D
Darn... shoulda took pics at a lower res. I guess. They don't look so good by the time I compress 'em enough to post.... and no, DHOOKS, he didn't seem to mind....
Didn't catch Bob's last name, but he's a Bro, too (I think) photo skills are about like my flying, so excuse, please..


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hey, glad you came! had a good day, except for dumb thumbing the burrito! just motivated me to get the mojo done! got the wing finished covering, gonna finish assembly by monday, probably.
Did you fix the Burrito? I held off on posting those pics :shock: . If you don't feel like fixing her, I might be interested in a cheap beater! After all, you'll be too busy flying the Mojo anyway, right? 8)
haven't fixed it yet; got the spars and all cleaned up, just gotta epoxy it back on. but decided to finish the mojo first. then my boy decided he'd like to have it, so I sold the airframe to him for a dollar and put all the gear in the mojo; that way I can keep the corsair flying and he'll have a good plane to fly.

you can go ahead and post the broken burrito pic as a caution to people to stay focused and not try to figure out what went wrong with the last manouver while you are still flying! WHACK!

here is the mojo with the burrito gear going in it... now you see why I wanted to get it done instead of fixing the burrito? nothing prettier than a new bird!


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Now, that is one groovy plane!
Oh, yeah, y'all. Just to prove that a Burrito can be broken..


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Wow. :shock:

how do you do somethimg like that?

Do you have a nice story?
ha! Had been flying most of the day. did an inverted harrier, which I still suck at. Pulled out and was thinking about it and bounced the plane off the ground as I flew past. Thought, "what the hell was that all about?" and then remembered that I was still flying; flew it right into the ground at 1/2 throttle! Pretty weird, guess I'm getting old! :shock: SERIOUS brain fart!

it was a good break, though. stub spars intact, just gotta epoxy panel back on and resheet. finished the mojo instead, my boy bought it off me and is gonna fix it.
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