Back at it (REVO series thread)

Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:21 pm

iBang wrote:
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iBang wrote:No illusion. The EVO's had stabs out of line but not by nearly as much. Some of the design elements of the EVO fuse that will carry over to this new bird allow me to step the wing and stab out a little bit from the tube without a reduction in strength.



What about coupling?


I've never noticed much of an issue on other planes I have flown with out of line wing/stab arrangements so I'm not worrying about it.

I find it interesting no one has commented on the horizontal stab yet 8)




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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:34 pm

I completely missed that it is a flying stab. Very nice.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:00 pm

Looks like a hinge line on my phone screen lol.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:03 pm

iBang wrote:
Goofy wrote:
iBang wrote:No illusion. The EVO's had stabs out of line but not by nearly as much. Some of the design elements of the EVO fuse that will carry over to this new bird allow me to step the wing and stab out a little bit from the tube without a reduction in strength.



What about coupling?


I've never noticed much of an issue on other planes I have flown with out of line wing/stab arrangements so I'm not worrying about it.

I find it interesting no one has commented on the horizontal stab yet 8)




Have you ever messed with flying stabs? I ask because on the combat planes I used to make (modded public design)out of mostly parts from lowes, the flying stab was very fickle. It takes much less area to be extremely effective, and too much it becomes a serious tip stalling muthafuka. I think it was something like 22% before the pivot point or someshit, been a long time since I built one. You also need Hella solid swervos, if there is any slop whatsoever in the gear train that tail will be hunting constantly.....the whole tail moves and there is no stab to act as a buffer.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:17 pm

what are you guys talking about? I see an airfoiled horizontal stab and separate elevator (nice)....but not a flying stab. Has terminology all the sudden changed?
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:19 pm

and no stinkin counterbalances!!!!! :rockon:
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:22 pm

looks like a regular stab with no counterbalances. as long as the hinge line allows > 45 degrees should be alot of fun.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:06 pm

Goofy wrote:
iBang wrote:
Goofy wrote:
iBang wrote:No illusion. The EVO's had stabs out of line but not by nearly as much. Some of the design elements of the EVO fuse that will carry over to this new bird allow me to step the wing and stab out a little bit from the tube without a reduction in strength.



What about coupling?





I've never noticed much of an issue on other planes I have flown with out of line wing/stab arrangements so I'm not worrying about it.

I find it interesting no one has commented on the horizontal stab yet 8)




Have you ever messed with flying stabs? I ask because on the combat planes I used to make (modded public design)out of mostly parts from lowes, the flying stab was very fickle. It takes much less area to be extremely effective, and too much it becomes a serious tip stalling muthafuka. I think it was something like 22% before the pivot point or someshit, been a long time since I built one. You also need Hella solid swervos, if there is any slop whatsoever in the gear train that tail will be hunting constantly.....the whole tail moves and there is no stab to act as a buffer.


Yes, and they are a pain in the rectum. Tried them on Competition Fun Fly toys.You think ripping off counter balances is bad, you end up replacing the whole horizontal after it catches the ground.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:16 pm

Goofy wrote:
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Re: Back at it :)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:17 pm

joebob wrote:Without front sheeting or sub spars, won't it be hard to apply the covering? Seems like it would sag into the bays quite a bit.


It will just like the Skeeters. They flew fine. They also used the interlocking self jigging shear web. It keeps it light but rigid..but as other have said, the covering takes up most of the twisting load, which is fine for a nice uber light bird. They break when they dork, but they are easy to repair because there is so few pieces to puzzle back together. And the covering usually keeps them all together for some thin wickin.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:00 pm

There's some bracing in place in addition to the skeeter style rib/sheer web setup since its a larger plane so it will be stiffer and not rely on covering so much for rigidity, but it will cover the same way.

As for the stab - it is airfoiled, but not all flying. Standard hinge line. Removable too I might add so this will be a suitcase-capable slab. I've flown all flying tails, no thanks. I don't care for how they perform.

And yes AD, no counterbalances. This one will be based on a One Design and they didn't have them from the factory so I don't feel the need to add them.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:39 am

This is still going. I've had a couple of weeks of working evenings that has killed productivity but I'm finally back at it. I decided to make the jump from working in rhino 3D for the wing and stab to devwingcad. Its just a bit easier. I'll still be doing some tweaks with the final files in rhino and the fuse will be designed in there but this does save some time. I pretty much duplicated my entire work with the wing which took weeks in a matter of hours. Admittedly I had the measurements from what I've already designed to help me out but still.

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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:32 am

iBang wrote:I pretty much duplicated my entire work with the wing which took weeks in a matter of hours. Admittedly I had the measurements from what I've already designed to help me out but still.



That's how it starts. So far I've got 11 projects in mine. I'm taking a serious look into just leasing a laser cutter. With an Epilog Z24 I can cut out all of those in a week.


One issue that was caught recently. On the build tab thread, make sure you set the drop down to parallel to the table. It's not the default setting, and without it you get correctly placed tabs that are the wrong length.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:51 pm

Well if you end up with a laser let me know. I'll pay you to do my cutting since you're local.

Of course I could also just finish off my own CNC router that has been collecting dust for half a year...
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:07 pm

get a CNC router instead of the laser cutter. I hate having to sand the charred edges off laser cut kits to get good glue adhesion. Some things laser cutters are awesome for, balsa kits is not at the top of that list for me.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:14 pm

Terryscustoms over on giant scale news and been getting really good results with his laser cutter. Said he has learned to turn the heat of the laser down so it just barely cuts through the material and it then leaves very little charring to remove.
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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:07 pm

Motowncali wrote:get a CNC router instead of the laser cutter. I hate having to sand the charred edges off laser cut kits to get good glue adhesion. Some things laser cutters are awesome for, balsa kits is not at the top of that list for me.



I don't care what it is as long as it will cut 90 degree angles. I'm getting backed up on projects real bad.


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Re: Back at it (REVO series thread)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:19 pm

Well you finished mine at least. Huge thanks again on that.
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