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Dad is mad at me.

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#1 ·
I told him he was part of the problem as his response to ANY form of discussion about current events is, "I don't wanna hear that political BULLSHIT"!!! Usually at the top of his lungs and followed closely by STFU!!! Found out last week he voted Obammy BOTH TIMES!!! We now have a serious issue as I love my Dad, but have lost all respect for him as a man now for being willing to stick his head in the sand after HELPING to create the biggest mess in our times. Really having issue with this deep in my self. I want to do whatever it takes to put this shit rite in our country, and I feel their should be no room in any of our lives for anyone not willing to be a part of the solution. If you aren't willing to be part of the solution, you are the PROBLEM! That is now how I feel. I am open to discussion as I am now conflicted about this as my Dad is by my own definition part of the problem. But he IS my Dad. Man it can be hard to have conviction to do what you believe to be the rite thing sometimes. My Dad worked hard his whole life until he got injred on the job, then let himself get so fat he can hardly walk, knees giving out, ect. He provided for our family and I seen him work when he was so sick he probably should have been in the ER. He is now on disability and thinks all is fine. Not worried about the collapse of our economy or loss of freedoms ect. Won't even allow my Mother and I to discuss it in the house. PISSED me off and I told him I would not STFU I was speaking to Mom NOT him, and he should take his own advise. So now we are at an impasse. Mom is worried about these things and want's to discuss them, what should I do?
 
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#52 ·
No need to change my mind Jeremy. I know right from wrong.

I'm not labeling you and I hope you're not labeling me. I hate all politicians, there's just some I hate worse than others.

I don't have a party unless extreme conservative has recently become a political party.
 
#53 ·
Never wanted to Label anyone Bro, just making a point. You guys are either skimming what I post, not understanding plain English, or are intentionally twisting it to make a joke. That is your choice as to what one you admit to, lol. But I know what I said, what I believe, and what is rite and wrong. I see no more point in discussing what I said a long time ago, or how I rationalized or tried to explain how I came to those conclusions then. But........ Some of you are still so hung up on the fact I ONCE said something, that you cannot admit it is possible for someone to change their mind about something. So rather than discuss it logically, they resort to attempting to enrage me by insult, or word twisting. That is how LIBERALS do things.
 
#54 ·
Kinda similar to what is going on with Paula Dean today. lol.
 
#55 ·
rcaircraftnut said:
Never wanted to Label anyone Bro, just making a point. You guys are either skimming what I post, not understanding plain English, or are intentionally twisting it to make a joke. That is your choice as to what one you admit to, lol. But I know what I said, what I believe, and what is rite and wrong. I see no more point in discussing what I said a long time ago, or how I rationalized or tried to explain how I came to those conclusions then. But........ Some of you are still so hung up on the fact I ONCE said something, that you cannot admit it is possible for someone to change their mind about something. So rather than discuss it logically, they resort to attempting to enrage me by insult, or word twisting. That is how LIBERALS do things.
rcaircraftnut said:
If someone like Bill gates who has enough $ to buy the world it seems, could donate some services or pay for them for a bit, it would allow the little guy who is struggling to break out and make a go of it again.
You said this the other day. Not a long time ago.
 
#56 ·
You neglected to quote the line below that where I said that it wouldn't work, weather I thought it could or not, due to the amount of freeloaders who don't want to work. It could work, and has in the past when everyone WANTED to work. Keyword WANTED, lol.
 
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rcaircraftnut said:
You neglected to quote the line below that where I said that it wouldn't work, weather I thought it could or not, due to the amount of freeloaders who don't want to work. It could work, and has in the past when everyone WANTED to work. Keyword WANTED, lol.
Here's the full quote, yeah I must of missed that, I still don't see it. :roll: It sounds like you would like Bill Gates to pay more. Why don't those that pay nothing start producing and pay something....anything. At least pay for themselves and quit placing the burden on producers and their workers.

rcaircraftnut said:
I think I may have worded that a little badly, let me rephrase and see if I can make any sense out of it. If they made the basic services free that really wouldn't work. But the amount of $ we pay in taxes could fund it. It would still be paid for by the people, just not directly. I don't mean services that are privately owned, but the public utilities. We pay for them after paying for their maint and construction with tax dollars. Kinda seems like being charged double. I have said before that these little stimulus things the GOV does don't help. If someone like Bill gates who has enough $ to buy the world it seems, could donate some services or pay for them for a bit, it would allow the little guy who is struggling to break out and make a go of it again. This is how infrastructure was built and paid for back before the IRS Ect. Wealthy people built it so they could operate it for profit. Now the GOV charges mass amounts more to build a shitty product and then CHARGES us the ones who paid to build it, to use it. Not quite rite if you ask me. but I admit as I stated it above it sounds pretty retarded.
 
#58 ·
What part of built and operated for profit makes anyone get it free? The profit for the wealthy guy comes from everyone who uses it paying to use it. BUT if the PEOPLE payed to build it through taxes, they OWN it, how can they be expected to pay to use it? I admit my wording makes it hard to grasp what I was trying to get across. Either way it is soo fucking irrelevant it aint funny cuz it wont ever happen in this country again till the Government implodes and lots of bad shit happens. What I think could or could not work and weather or not I fit neatly into Steve's little labeling scheme is also irrelevant for the same reason. I think the real reason my Dad is mad at me just became clear to me. He is mad because I feel outraged and want to be an active part of the solution, while he just want's to hide from reality for a while. So I will do me and let him do him and hope he lives through the Liberal apocalypse that I truly believe is coming in this country.
As far as this thread goes, let's make it a good constructive thing. A place to discus the solution to this mess our nation is in.
 
#59 ·
Art,
You gotta know when its futile to try to make these pot smoking things should be free paid by the rich types that deny what they said two days ago them try to say you're the one trolling.
No one is double paying, except for the rich and the government is so inefficient in everything it does it amazes me these progressives want the government to do more and more free things for them as long as those damn rich people will pay for them.

Bill gates started in his garage without a dime and still had to get a partner. Now guys like nut thing they need to do more for the non hard working man. Pure socialist.

Still love ya nut, but I see you as part of the problem not part of the solution.
 
#60 ·
Then you are still blind Steve, If you cant see that I was trying to show the failed logic in what you originally quoted. You are still trying to say I still think it will work. I have repeatedly said it wouldn't. So until things change we are stuck with the IRS and taxation of every aspect of our lives. I KNOW what I said, what I meant, and what I think. Until you are inside my head LITERALLY, don't presume to know ANYTHING about me. Thanks.
 
#61 ·
rcaircraftnut said:
Then you are still blind Steve, If you cant see that I was trying to show the failed logic in what you originally quoted. You are still trying to say I still think it will work. I have repeatedly said it wouldn't. So until things change we are stuck with the IRS and taxation of every aspect of our lives. I KNOW what I said, what I meant, and what I think. Until you are inside my head LITERALLY, don't presume to know ANYTHING about me. Thanks.
Wow you are still missing the point.
I'm not giving you shit for what you said a couple years ago, but rather a couple days ago.
I didn't start you being a liberal in this thread, you were ragging on your dad for being liberal and I just pointed out so are you.
What you don't get is the free stuff you want is simply a liberal idea, it doesn't matter if it would work or not, a conservative wants to take care of those services and everything possible ourselves, even if the government could do it and make it work!
We want to keep how much electricity we use, when we use it and what for to ourselves, not the government.
We do not want bill gates forced to pay for our cable and knowing what we watch on tv,
It does not matter if those ideas would work, we conservatives do not want any government or private company having any part in our services. See how those "ideas" are socialist?
 
#62 ·
WOW, you are still blind. EVERYTHING I posted in response to your OG quote was trying to show the FAILED logic I used at THAT time. GOD you are BLIND!!!!! Just concede the fact that I changed my mind LONG AGO, and we can go on, otherwise I will be forced to call you Libtard Jr FOREVER! lol.
 
#63 ·
rcaircraftnut said:
WOW, you are still blind. EVERYTHING I posted in response to your OG quote was trying to show the FAILED logic I used at THAT time. GOD you are BLIND!!!!! Just concede the fact that I changed my mind LONG AGO, and we can go on, otherwise I will be forced to call you Libtard Jr FOREVER! lol.
Good God man, just read the stuff you said in this thread. Try to do it not high.
 
#64 ·
rcaircraftnut said:
WOW, you are still blind. EVERYTHING I posted in response to your OG quote was trying to show the FAILED logic I used at THAT time. GOD you are BLIND!!!!! Just concede the fact that I changed my mind LONG AGO, and we can go on, otherwise I will be forced to call you Libtard Jr FOREVER! lol.
Good God man, just read the stuff you said in this thread. Try to do it not high. No one is talking about the og quote.
 
#65 ·
In Jeremys defense, I know he's for the most part switched from the dark side, oops I mean liberalism :mrgreen: . He's putting in the effort and I think he's doing his best although I think he's confused from time to time. LOL Maybe he's a switch hitter, see Dad and he's a lefty, come to his senses and back to the right. :tu:

He's a good liberal...uh..err, I mean aspiring conservative. :rofl:

Just busting on you AGAIN brutha take a break and smoke a bowl... :ray: :ray: :ray:
 
#66 ·
Did, and for the record as lond as Steve wants to keep digging his own hole, I will keep feeding his shovel. LOL! This is FUN!
 
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