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Do you believe in the existence of God?

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#1 ·
If so, what is your proof?

If not, why not?
 
#9 ·
I an 'undecided".

I would like to believe in God but I'd also like him to believe in me.

All I want is a little unambiguous proof that's not reliant on faith or interpretation. For example.... If I said "God, turn my water into wine" and the glass of water I'm holding suddenly became a nice CabSav, that would convince me.

So why doesn't God (given that he's omnipotent) take a few milliseconds out of his day and drop a bag of proof on me?

I have to deduce that if he's there then he's not listening or simply doesn't want me in his flock of believers -- which is okay by me I guess - no point in hanging around where you're not wanted.

I'd also like those awful paradoxes cleared up for me too.

Maybe just 10 minutes of his time would do it -- so I could ask a few hard questions and get some informed answers, right from the horse's mouth so to speak.

For someone who's as loving, caring and powerful as people say he is I really can't think that this is too much to ask.

Is it?

And it's no good saying "but it's all in the bible and the proof is all around" because that's a cop-out. Surely God can do better than that when one of his creations comes asking like a young child tugging on the sleeve of their father's shirt.

For this reason, I still have my doubts -- but am open to a chat anytime God wants to look down and start talking.

Am I being unreasonable?
 
#12 ·
Radioav8tor said:
I think that the Majority of people in our country belive in "God", Which one is irrealavant(sic),It's a Faith thing, not a Religion thing. That's the Beauty of living in the USofA, FREEDOM of Choice!
But would you want to be an Islamic in the USA these days?

And just try shouting "allah achbar" in a crowded theater and see what happens :)
 
#16 ·
John Wells said:
I believe there is one almighty God.
Even if you do take the leap of faith and believe in God, how do you know which version of his teachings are to be believed?

Although there are common threads, most Christian religions (let alone the non-Christian ones) have some *very* significant differences in respect to their interpretation of the word of God.

How do you determine which is true and which is false?

How many Bro's have started with one religion and switched to another -- and why did you do so?
 
#17 ·
xjet said:
Even if you do take the leap of faith and believe in God, how do you know which version of his teachings are to be believed?
The individual beliefs such as the way Catholics shy away from unnatural contraception and Pentecostals believing that women should wear dresses are their own choices.

I think the big issues like taking your own life (suicide) are universal in Gods eyes. BTW, I am anti-abortion.

As for why I believe? I've had too many things happen to me in my own life that were not a fluke or coincidental.

In case you were wondering, my Father was a Catholic, and my Mother was you guessed it, Pentecostal.

JW
 
#18 ·
Seeings how I cant see any of your brains Im *undecided* as to if in fact you all have one.

With that in mind how is it a copout to say you see the hand of God around us?

How do you know your car has gas ( aside from a gas guage ) well because of the results , your car running. How do I know christ lives in me? Because of the results in my life.

How do I know there was a man named Christopher Columbus, I havent met him in person I dont know anyone thats personally saw him, he sure hasnt talked to me recently.

I can see the results of his leadership, exploration and vision and how he changed the course history. And because of that I accept with faith there was such a man.
 
#19 ·
I grew up in a United Methodist church; dated a girl in H.S. that went to a Baptist church so I spent a couple years there, dated another Southern Baptist for a couple more years, and I've been going to a Christian Union church for the last 10 years.

***These are my opinions of specific congregations I was a part of; and may not reflect on the denominations world-wide.***

United Methodists practice their "religion" at arms length; and didn't offer any support with addiction or counseling. Mind you this was over 20 years ago when most of the country was still in denial, and internet porn was not an issue.

Baptists seem too concerned about witnessing and works.

Didn't understand the whole covered head thing with the Southern Baptists, and they seemed judgmental. Of course I needed to be judged by that time in my life.

My pastor now is the best example of Christ-likeness I know, stresses relationship over religion, and is a genuine caring and selfless human being. It is rare for him to deliver a sermon that does not strike a chord in me. Now the Praise and Worship "band(s)" are getting out of control; but that is another subject. We also have a good "care-group" for support in our sunday school class.

I also had a breif experience with a "Cornerstone" charismatic group for a time after my divorce. But was quickly turned off by their praying in tongues. I beleive it was outside the guidlines set forth in I Corinthians 14.

B.
 
#20 ·
Xjet - I know God wants to drop that bag of "proof" right on you.... I'm trying to put something together that answers some of your questions...

I know in Gods Word it says that he that seeks Me will find Me...

Here's something you can check out in the mean time...
http://www.livingwaters.com/interview/index.shtml
 
#22 ·
Mike.. I feel the same... God has done soo much for me I am forever grateful... He's pulled me out of some rough spots and helped me from many disasters of my own making...

However the purpose of this thread is to provide evidence to those that are seeking....

I know Josh McDowell, Ray Comfort and many others have done a great job of exposing the evidence... I'm working on putting some of this evidence out where others can see it...
 
#23 ·
Hmm proof. When I was in 6th grade (before photoshop), our teacher brought in a picture that her friend took of the clouds outside of the window of the airplane by misake simply to forward to the first picture sort of thing of the film. Anyway, the picture was passed around and when I first looked at it just looked like a bunch of clouds to me. Other people said they saw something in the picture. Others said they saw nothing. The picture came around again and I looked at it again, and suddenly I saw a picture of Jesus. The clouds dark and light images were shadows and highlights of his face. The detail was quite incredible once I saw it. The face was the trypical one that you we see. And, I remember looking at it and it was like a light switch...when I saw the face, I could no longer look at the picture anymore and see the clouds....from that point all I could see was the face.

Half the class saw the face, the other half the class never saw anything but the clouds. Everyone that saw the face, saw the clouds at first. Some where able to see the face relatively fast...it took several minutes and several times for me to see it.
 
#25 ·
Here's one that did it for me: When I was a small child my mother had to have a neck fusion (kinda experimental then) and I prayed that night for her. In a flash, I knew she was going to be fine, and I was so sure that God answered that prayer that I immediately went down stairs and told my father she was going to be fine-and she was!

I know, sounds korny, but it was immediately put into my mind, and I feel that for me, that was proof.
 
#26 ·
Mike , "the children" Yes

Ricky, "in a Flash" yes

Paul "Tough spots" yes

My personal experience, The lowest point of my life, I wasn't sure of God and would say I need poof to change me ,, Almost agnostic.
But laying in a bed , in a sad state, with no reason to live another second, A lousy husband -Father and person, Low life drunk with no good reason to keep breathing.
I silently in my mind said to the Lord, "I give up" "Its in your hands"
"Please help me and I will serve you in any way you see fit" I know lord I need to stop the sins and I am ready now" "Please help me"

This was a total surrender. It started because I knew I was not being the best father for my daughter who was about to be 2 yr old (now 19 and hates me) , I need to surrender again but I'm fighting

This was the toughest spot I had ever been in,

And in a Flash, I was flooded with a feeling of well-being and Though hard to describe the Dark room was lit up with the presence of the Lord , His light shined through me and cleansed my soul.

This is hard to type, but I have recently spoken with piggy about it, so why not share with the Bros :shrug2:

I never became a Bible thumper because it was not my mission.

I find my self in a world of shit again as I type, I know the answer and how to have a wonderful experience again. But I guess I haven't hit a low enough state and it's scary. My new mission may not include my current family,or the Hood, It may totally take away every thing I know.

But rest assured I know the Lord is waiting for me to surrender so he can give me a new assignment..

Now it's up to Me.

sharing this is not easy, but I think good.

Lord please watch over my children , Care for Tamster and help Andy, Watch over Jim's health, and Keep Mark safe out there and please help me make the right decisions.
Amen
 
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