OMP 80" Edge on Gas

Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:06 am

That's gonna be a badassssssssssss plane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are gonna love the syssa, it's a stump puller.
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OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:46 am

I agree and am looking forward to it.
The 80" OMP I built from a kit weighed 11 pounds with an OS 1.60
Not sure what the ARF and Syssa will weigh, but the engine should have 18 pounds of thrust
according to the specs and should be fine.

Can't find anyone else on here with an 80" and a Syssa :cry:
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:17 am

bob_nj wrote:I agree and am looking forward to it.
The 80" OMP I built from a kit weighed 11 pounds with an OS 1.60
Not sure what the ARF and Syssa will weigh, but the engine should have 18 pounds of thrust
according to the specs and should be fine.

Can't find anyone else on here with an 80" and a Syssa :cry:

The ARF's where built very light. :D
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OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:48 am

Good to know.

Anyone you know have one?
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:03 pm

bob_nj wrote:Good to know.

Anyone you know have one?

No. But I had one in my possession. I just never flew it. I did have an 80" Yak kit built. It was heavier than the Edge ARF.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:39 am

OK, so I'm keeping you posted.

I had two different Syssa's on the plane and they just didn't work out.
Plagued with problems, and bad service so I ditched them.
I tried to buy American, but it wasn't in the cards.

So, I threw a JC 30 on there that I got with my Lam Yak kit.
For a low rate Chinese engine, it runs like a top!

Starts good, runs excellent, and transition is superb.

Havin a lot of fun with the plane.
Tried some stall strips on the wings like I used to with my Morris profiles and so far I like them.
The plane will do anything and is a blast to fly.

Gotta get to the field now before the really cold weather sets in here in Jersey.

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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:33 am

bob_nj wrote:OK, so I'm keeping you posted.

I had two different Syssa's on the plane and they just didn't work out.
Plagued with problems, and bad service so I ditched them.
I tried to buy American, but it wasn't in the cards.

So, I threw a JC 30 on there that I got with my Lam Yak kit.
For a low rate Chinese engine, it runs like a top!

Starts good, runs excellent, and transition is superb.

Havin a lot of fun with the plane.
Tried some stall strips on the wings like I used to with my Morris profiles and so far I like them.
The plane will do anything and is a blast to fly.

Gotta get to the field now before the really cold weather sets in here in Jersey.

Take care
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Wow two Syssa's didn't work, I have heard the service was not so great with them but thought
they were good engines...good to know..
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:06 am

Odd about the Syssa's. I have had one for 3 years w/o a single problem. Chips303 has had his longer than that with no issues. I'll give you $50 per. 8) :lol:

Still, other than having rail mounts as an option, I'd go with DLE or JC for another 30cc just on low end torque. Syssa's seemed to be design more for top end performance.

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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:33 pm

Or you could put 4600-4800 Watts on the nose and problem solved.


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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:37 pm

Gus, what's your setup? Not sure it would be too cost effective to convert it for me.
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:56 pm

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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:13 pm

that's a lot of lipo...
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:41 pm

tcipolla wrote:that's a lot of lipo...



Yeah, but that gives you 21-23# of static thrust... at 7000' ASL :wink:
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OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:10 pm

Yes it seems to be hit and miss with Syssa.
Mine were misses.
It happens.

Oddly enough, the JC30 starting making some sort of rod noise today.
Had to stop flying it.
Sounds like the rod either at the wrist pin or crank.

Yikes, I'm jinxed.

Still had fun with the three flights I did get.

What's the hot 30 now, DLE?

I have on on my Lam Yak and it's been exemplary.

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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:18 pm

gus wrote:
tcipolla wrote:that's a lot of lipo...





Yeah, but that gives you 21-23# of static thrust... at 7000' ASL :wink:


I've been looking at getting a mac's header and a can for my Moki. Probably a bit cheaper than a complete conversion, especially the batts.
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:23 pm

Give us the run down..

What oil, what mix.. do you lean it out and run it hot and fast? Will the head sizzle spit after a good flight?

3 for 3.... hmmmm. . :thinking:
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:01 pm

I have a BME44 on my OMP,just rite for a plane this size.almost to tall heavy.
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OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:51 am

I guess I should start at the beginning.
The JC30 had a reputation for seizing up because the manufacturer put shims on the wrist pin
that would deteriorate and then sieze the engine.

That happened to mine.
Here's a thread on JC and describes the problem.
http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68345&page=75
There's a lot of reading there, but around page 70 or so is where I started asking questions.
Page 75 is a picture of the shims.

Anyway, I sent mine in for repair and had gotten it back recently.
I was instructed to run at 32:1 with Dino oil for a couple of gallons since it had some time on it when it went in.
I also had a Bowman ring installed while it was being repaired.

No lean hot/runs.
I don't lean for max power, or even run my engines hard.
I'm one of the slower flyers at the field and have a reputation as such.
I like to keep my planes low, slow and in front of me.

It does seem like I'm a hack since I've had a bunch of problems, but I've been doing this since
1976 and do understand what works and what doesn't.

I have a short video from the field today but it's around 18 megs and I don't know if it will load here.

The BME 44 sounds interesting.
My Edge is a little tail heavy too.
I made some aluminum mounts when I went from rail to rear mount.
I extended them out a little to try to make up some nose weight.

When the tank is full it isn't bad, but towards the end of the tank it gets tail heavy.

You guys take care.
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:46 pm

Anybody still flying one of these?
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Re: OMP 80" Edge on Gas

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:00 pm

Steve-

I unloaded my 80" Aeroworks Extra last winter. There was also a f'ed up sale for one of these OMP kits over on RCG a week or so back. Some Fucktard listed the kit after a handshake deal was already done with Constrictor.

There's a guy from CoosBay ProBro name Tracy who flies one here too.

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