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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:54 pm

crobar wrote:Hello, I am ready to get the building board for starting the Mojo 40. I've read and heard of the following materials being used for the build board; Wood doors, sheet rock, ceiling insulation sections and blue hard foam board. Is there any sort of a consensus as to which of these board materials or others seems to work the best ?

Wood doors are great,but the main reason for using one is to have a flat surface. I build on a door with ceiling tile on it for pins. But i rarely use pins because i have a bunch of square steel blocks. about any door that wont warp isn't gonna be all that easy to push pins into. If you already have a perfectly flat surface,you really don't need a door. Just throw some ceiling tile on it throw the plans on top of that and peel of some wax paper,and start building :drink:
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:44 pm

Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:49 pm

Thanks to all for the comments re; build table material.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:05 pm

I second the parchment. Ca sticks to wax paper. But the $1 parchment paper it doesn't at all.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:58 pm

My build surface is a section of pool table slate with ceiling tile to pin to. Slate is only 54" so that's an issue sometimes
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:32 am

My normal build surface is and old window pane from a casement window. It's nice and flat.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:58 am

I build on those white 2'x6' shelves from Menards and have a couple metal shelf rails underneath for support. Sometimes with a ceiling tile and sometimes with metal 1/2"x1" blocks.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:14 pm

I use a piece of 1/2 drywall on top of my workbench, I use wax paper the super phatic glu don't stick to it at all. I quit building with ca, to many fumes.gorilla glue don't stick to it either.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:02 pm

BalsaDust wrote:Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through



Screw all that, Rumple Wrap is awesome.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:15 pm

gus wrote:
BalsaDust wrote:Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through



Screw all that, Rumple Wrap is awesome.


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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:17 pm

gus wrote:
BalsaDust wrote:Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through



Screw all that, Rumple Wrap is awesome.

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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:18 pm

stanleyholecek wrote:
gus wrote:
BalsaDust wrote:Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through



Screw all that, Rumple Wrap is awesome.

What is that, some kind of goat kote?


Oh, here we go again :mrgreen:


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I have only my personal roll right now - no chance to make any in recent history. Of course, I haven't made it to any ProBros in the past year either! Bum a piece from a local bro!
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:39 pm

I finally got myself started on my experimental design.

I went to Lowe's and picked up an Luan faced 24 x 80 smooth inside door for $25 and one sheet of sound deadening board (similar to Homesite 440 Sound Barrier).
Purchased thin long straight glass beaded pins for pinning.
I sealed the surface with a coat of latex paint I had sitting around to seal surface for sanding to make it smoother.
So far it has worked well for building the fuselage of my first scratch built slab!
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:46 am

It was a few years ago but I visited my local hardware store's big sale day. They had a dozen or so hollow core doors on clearance. I took a 4' level to them to check for straightness and didn't buy any of them. They were all way out of wack! These were new doors.

When I got home I remembered I had one buried in the garage from remodeling my house years ago. It had been out there for 25 years or so and was old when I took it out of service. What do ya know, it was straight as can be so I used, and am still using that door today.

Guess what I am saying is don't take it for granted that a hollow core door will be straight and true. Check it out first.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:06 am

i got 2 from h.d. mine were straight. can find markdowns a lot of times, just sight them. i use three 3' tall wire shelves to set them on so i can make a 160" long table for surfboards when needed. most of times i have one atop the other, solid that way. i have edged a slab with 1x2 screwed and glued on edge to bottom before. makes it a lot stronger. but stacking works fine, and by turning or flipping the slab when it gets too cut up, you get several years outa two.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:00 pm

gus wrote:
BalsaDust wrote:Screw wax paper. I find that parchment paper works better. Little harder to see through



Screw all that, Rumple Wrap is awesome.


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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:04 pm

rgandee wrote:I finally got myself started on my experimental design.


Im a fan of the foiled rons. Is that a cf rod in the rons? Care to explain?

Id follow a thread if you were so inclined.
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Re: wing building tips for a Noob builder

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:28 am

The airfoil that I chose is really thin and the ailerons are 1/3 of the total wing area. May be too much area but time will tell.
I haven't gotten very far on the actual wing build yet! I have the fuselage done other than throttle servo placement.
This is my first design drawn with a cad program using ideas from other designs. It is taking longer than I would like because I am trying to figure out how to make it easier to build, working out bugs as I go. I have probably made it more complex than it needs to be. I will have to look at reducing the amount of work to cut and build.

I put 1/8 inch round carbon rod to help line everything up and if necessary glue in to make the trailing edge stiffer.

I will post my progress on my thread in the experimental forum.
I was wanting to get more progress before I posted on the thread. It has taken a lot longer than I wanted, lol!
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